as long as you're talking about religion, religion is totally subjective and the not based on any truth, no matter what you say, it's okay. what's an example of that? this last week, bill collar of the new york times wrote an article how to die, it was all about end of life care. the suggestions he made was that the reason we're not able to, as a society, get to a point in which our loved ones can die peacefully is because the catholic church would never allow such practices to occur. meaning what? a suggestion that the catholic church would require a family member to go to extreme means to keep somebody who is dying alive. it's simply not the truth. but, nobody stands up to it because you know what? as long as you're talking about religion, as long as you can offer any opinion you want and pass it as fact because religion itself is purely subjective. >> clayton: what about during the vice-presidential debate and joe biden flat out lied and says that catholic institutions don't have to pay for contraceptives, and that's a lie or it was barely picked up. >> that's the media's responsibil